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December 12, 2005
“I, as an ethnically Turkish citizen, am not guilty, but am responsible for what happened to the Armenians in 1915.”
Toronto, Canada – Dr. Fatma Müge Göçek,
Associate Professor of Sociology at the
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, and the
author of many books and articles, gave an
eye-opening and provocative public lecture
on “Turkey, the European Union and the
Armenian Question,” and in that context,
discussed the significance of the recent
Istanbul conference on “Ottoman Armenians
during the Decline of the Empire: Issues of
Scientific Responsibility and Democracy.”
The event took place on Dec. 2, 2005 and
was organized by the International Institute
for Genocide and Human Rights Studies (A
Division of the Zoryan Institute). Varouj
Aivazian, Prof. of Economics at the
University of Toronto and Chair of the
Institute’s Corporate Board introduced the
event by stating why the Institute created
this evening’s forum. He highlighted that
Prof. Göçek simultaneously has both incurred
the ire of her compatriots and earned their
respect and admiration for her stand on the
Armenian Genocide, her role in advising the
organizers of the Istanbul conference, and
her participation in it.
Prof. Göçek prefaced her remarks with a
statement that she was not receiving any
payment for her appearance, nor does she
accept payment for any of her invited
lectures on this subject. She made that
point emphatically, as she has been accused
recently of speaking out in a manner
opposing the Turkish state thesis on the
Armenian Genocide only for financial
consideration.
Prof. Göçek stated that while she does
not use the word “genocide” to refer to what
happened to the Armenians in the Ottoman
Empire in 1915, she affirmed that “It
certainly is so by the definition accepted
by the United Nations.” She then very
clearly explained that she has decided not
to employ the term in her work, “because the
term ‘genocide’ has become politicized by
the Turkish state, as well as by certain
segments of the Armenian Diaspora in such a
manner that I think it hinders the
discussion that needs to take place to get
Turkish state and society…to understand what
happened in 1915.”
Proceeding with a detailed historical
outline of the Armenian Genocide and its
denial, she discussed the importance of the
recognition of the Genocide and
reconciliation between Turks and Armenians.
The relation between the Armenian Question
and the Turkish state has gone through
stages, according to Prof. Göçek. The first
stage was exploration, where the Armenian
and official Turkish state versions were
first delineated. Most of the world, except
for Turkey, has accepted what happened to
the Armenians as at least a massacre, if not
a genocide. The Turkish state was able to
sustain its position, however, due to cold
war Realpolitik. People became polarized in
two camps. She stated, “They judged you on
whether or not you used the word ‘genocide’
and did not listen to anything else you had
to say. This has impeded discussion on
important questions, such as why the
Genocide happened, so that we can learn to
prevent it from happening again.”
The second stage she calls “the challenge
stage.” As a result of improved economic,
communications and educational development
in Turkey, a climate was created for a
challenge to state control over free speech
and thought. The coming to power of the AK
Party, in spite of strong nationalist
opposition from within the state military
and bureaucracy, comprised the political
manifestation of this stage. The AK Party
government emerged willing to ally itself on
certain issues with the educated liberal
forces of society that challenged the status
quo. This was accompanied by increased
efforts to have Turkey join the European
Union, an endeavor that was ironically led
by the religiously conservative but
politically liberal AK Party government.
They felt that the only way for their
religiously based party to survive in
secular Turkey was through EU membership,
which would foster and strengthen democracy
in Turkey. Hand in hand with this
democratization goes Turkey’s ability to
confront its past, which requires the
diminution of the nationalist forces in
Turkey.
The academic indicator of the “challenge
stage” is the Istanbul Conference, where
liberal intellectuals, who were willing to
challenge the official discourse on the fate
of the Armenians, discussed their positions.
It was the nationalist forces that tried
through various means to undermine and
cancel the conference.
In her analysis of the significance of
the Istanbul conference, Prof. Göçek
explained that Turkish scholars were able
for the first time to come together as a
community in Turkey to challenge the
official state discourse. She made clear
that their opposition to the official state
discourse does not in any way imply
opposition to the existence of the Turkish
state. The Turkish Republic should be proud,
she insisted, that it has produced a group
of scholars who are willing to criticize the
state and society with the purpose of making
it a better place for all of its citizens,
regardless of their religion or ethnicity.
She then added that what she and other
intellectuals strove for was to make sure
that there is public space in Turkey for
everyone to make their views heard,
regardless of whether or not they are
critical of the state.
While the conference provided an
opportunity to discuss various scholarly
issues, she continued, contrary to the
expectation and fears of some, it did not
attempt to issue a resolution that genocide
had taken place. That is not what academics
do, she added. The purpose of the conference
was to discuss and debate issues. The most
significant presentations were those that
emphasized the human dimension, which
discussed the loss to the Turks caused by
the departure of the Armenians. Furthermore,
the conference participants were able to
move away from the Turkish nationalist
identity, which views the Armenian Diaspora
as a vast monolith. Finally, the conference
helped them realize the extent of the fear
inside Turkey, the lack of confidence and
the lack of knowledge on the Armenian issue
as a whole.
She described what scholars can do to
help the situation. The most crucial thing,
she urged, is that we develop a common
language and a common body of knowledge….We
have to make the Turkish public aware that
recognition has to take place, not only
because it is moral to do so, but it is also
necessary for the democratization of Turkish
society. The significance of this
recognition is that the lack of it has
sanctioned violence by the Turkish state
against its own society. Turks have to
understand what the cost of denial has been
to them, both as a people and as a society.
In this process, we have to take action
against legal crackdowns both in Turkey—like
those against Hrant Dink, Ragip Zarakolu and
Orhan Pamuk—and in North America, where
there is now a legal challenge against the
Massachusetts educational authority.
As Prof. Göçek presented her conclusions,
she stated that it is important to separate
guilt and responsibility. “I, as an
ethnically Turkish citizen, am not guilty,
but am responsible for what happened to the
Armenians in 1915. This is a crucial
separation that has to be done for
transformation.” In addition, she expressed
that her ultimate aim is to make Turkey once
more the common homeland of both Armenians
and Turks, once again habitable by both, by
granting Turkish citizenship and, therefore,
right of return to all Armenians of
Anatolian descent.
As Prof. Göçek’s speech captivated the
audience with the force of her stand on the
issues, Mr. Yonet C. Tezel, Counsellor of
the Turkish Embassy in Ottawa, representing
the Turkish Ambassador, His Excellency Mr.
Aydemir Erman (who could not attend), asked
to respond to her. In keeping with the
principle of providing space for alternative
points of view, as Prof. Göçek advocates, he
was granted several minutes to make a speech
of his own, even though the forum was purely
academic. He began by observing that looking
at the audience, it is difficult to tell who
is Turk and who is Armenian and suggested
that is the point of departure from which we
should all take some inspiration. He then
went on to state that the study of this
period of history is on the rise in Turkey,
and the people of Turkey are more aware of
the seriousness of the accusation of
genocide than ever before, and in that sense
the Istanbul conference was important.
“However, the people of Turkey do not feel
they are the grandchildren of perpetrators
of genocide,” he stated. He made this
statement despite the fact that Prof. Göçek
had already differentiated guilt and
responsibility and also articulated that
many of the perpetrators of the Armenian
Genocide had joined Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to
eventually become members of the first
government of the Republic of Turkey. “I did
an analysis of the Deputies of the first
National Assembly,” she explained. “I have
found enough documentation that implicates
about 25-30% of the Deputies of having
participated in the massacres against the
Armenians….Not only was there no
accountability and no punishment for those
who committed crimes against the Armenians,
but many of the perpetrators unfortunately
then became leaders of the Turkish Republic.
Significant among these, for example, were
people like Ismet Inunu and Celal Bayar…who
came to occupy significant posts, such as
either the President, Prime Minister, or
Ministers of the new Republic…. So the
perpetrators of the past became…the heroes
of the present and the future, and this made
it extremely difficult, I think, for
Mustapha Kemal, who himself, actually, was
chosen to lead the independence struggle,
because he did not at all participate in any
of these crimes.”
The Mr. Tezel also remarked, “I would
caution against a dichotomy being drawn
between the Turkish state and the civil
society. Yes, there is a patrimonialism that
is inherent from the Ottomans, but
centre-peripheral relations are not enough
to describe modern Turkey—certainly not in
the last few decades. With all due respect
for the EU, the EU does facilitate some of
the liberalization, the reforms in Turkey.
That’s all fine; that’s all welcome.”
“It is surprising to hear Mr. Tezel’s
claim that there is no difference of view
between the Turkish state and a significant
element of civil society after the hour-long
presentation on the subject by Prof. Muge,”
said K.M. Greg Sarkissian, President of the
Institute. “Mr. Tezel is forgetting the
forceful public statements by social
activists like Hrant Dink and Ragip Zarakolu,
both facing trial for daring to speak
differently from the state-sanctioned view.
He is forgetting the criticism of scholars,
like Fatma Müge Göçek, Halil Bektay, Murat
Belge, and Taner Akcam, to name only a few.
He is also forgetting writers, like Elif
Shafak and Orhan Pamuk, the most prominent
of them, openly decrying the Turkish state’s
suppression of freedom of speech.“
Sarkissian then cited a statement by Pamuk
from the London Times: “Although Turkey has
made various ‘reforms’ concerning freedom of
expression, sometimes it seems that these
have been made for show and not out of
conviction. I am a writer. It is humiliating
to live in a country where this subject [the
Armenian massacre of 1915-17] is a taboo and
cannot be discussed.”
Then, His Excellency, Mr. Ara Papian, the
Armenian Ambassador, asked for permission to
speak. He stated that the Armenian
Government has been waiting to see some
indications of good will from the Turkish
side, which has kept the border between the
two countries closed and used its relations
with a third country, Azerbaijan, to
legitimate its decision not to have
relations with Armenia. He emphasized that
the Armenian state has never claimed
territory or reparations from
Turkey.
Armenia’s main goal, he insisted, is to
establish better relations with Turkey. If
Armenia wanted to make claims against
Turkey, it would not have to do so through
the Genocide, he explained, as there are
bilateral and multilateral agreements that
give Armenia the possibility to do so.
One of the highlights of the evening was
that the audience included Armenians and
Turks, as well as Alevis and Kurds, along
with official representatives from both
countries, who had been officially invited
by the Institute. In this respect, Ms. Dicle
Bilgin, one of the leaders of the Alevi
community in Toronto, said, “One of the most
important aspects of the evening was that
Armenians, Turks, Kurds and Alevis were able
to come together and discuss freely and
openly a subject that is still taboo in
Turkey.” In describing her feelings about
this event, she said, “I was very, very
emotional to see that representatives from
both embassies come together in this forum
and talk. After all, without talking
together, people can not come to any
agreement.”
One of the attendees, Ms. Junko Kanekiyo,
a graduate student from Japan studying at
the University of Toronto, expressed how
fascinating it was for her to learn how the
Turkish state denies the Armenian Genocide,
just as the Japanese state denies its
atrocities committed before and during World
War II.
Mr. Murat Nisan, an Armenian from Turkey,
stated that he was very pleased with the
event, “even though the academic aspect of
the lecture was impinged upon by the
tensions introduced by the two political
representatives, and the inherent emotional
element that goes with that. Nevertheless,”
he explained, “because of the forum created
by the Institute, for me this represented a
dialogue between the two parties, both from
the podium and through the questions and
answers with the audience.”
All present were touched by Prof. Göçek’s
message that we should not get caught up in
the denial aspects of the Armenian Genocide,
but rather learn what happened, so that we
can understand how to prevent it from
happening again. Furthermore, they were
moved by her emphasis that while history and
documents can be interpreted in various
ways, the human suffering that took place in
1915 should not be overlooked or negotiated.
She left them with the message that it is
the scholar’s responsibility to emphasize
the human dimension, and that we as humans
should be morally responsible and share the
suffering of others regardless of political
considerations.
“Prof. Göçek’s speech and the rebuttal of
the Turkish state representative in this
public forum are a manifestation of what is
going on in Turkey today,” said Greg
Sarkissian. “There is a struggle between the
dark forces of the “Inner State” of Turkey
and the forces of democracy. As part of that
struggle, the democratic forces of Turkish
society must regain control of its history.
It is our hope that Turkey does join the EU,
because I sincerely believe that it is for
the benefit of both the Turkish and Armenian
nations.”
George Shirinian, Director of the
Institute, expressed gratification for the
success of the evening. He observed that it
was rare for Turks and Armenians to come
together with their respective countries’
representatives and have a dialogue in such
an open and constructive forum. He credited
Prof. Göçek for being able, through her
detailed and informative presentation, to
lead the combined audience through this kind
of dialogue, which has been taboo in Turkey
up to now and a major obstacle to freedom of
speech and thought. “I do hope,” he stated,
“that Turks and Armenians together can
continue the momentum for dialogue that was
created here this evening.”
The International Institute for Genocide
and Human Rights Studies (A Division of the
Zoryan Institute) is committed to developing
a new generation of scholars to engage in
research and publication in the field of
genocide and human rights studies. The
institute seeks to help develop an
academic-level educational support system
for those who wish to work toward the
prevention of genocide. The program strives
to show, through the comparative study and
sharing of the genocidal traumas of many
peoples, that genocide is a universal human
experience and that, as such, it must be the
concern of all individuals and institutions.

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